Can't really tell you much you haven't heard already - this is kind of what we've been building towards the past year+. The news is only about to get worse, but technically analysisly speaking, it appears to be bouncy time (but don't try to catch the falling knives...with your tongue - courtesy of Chris). Some of the smart ones are calling for a multi-monther.
Yes, it seems nuts, but nothing goes in a straight line. Still, it's hard to see anything that sustained in this environment - so just be safe. But when we do get that rally sometime soon, my advice is to A) get out of anything that was still long (your choice as to when), and B) realize that this is nowhere near done. Congrats if you haven't had your butt handed to you this year, been a rough ride for the masses. Sidelines are MUCH safer.
But now we know what 3 of 3 feels like. I've been talking about it, but never explained it well. Here you go, with charts - gives you a general idea of what to expect. I say general because preditcing the future is not easy, and tools like this are not exact - especially in real time. Unfortunately it's after the fact that it becomes really clear. Cool stuff though.
http://tinyurl.com/4f39kz
But do not forget that the downward action is NOT over. That was not meant as an endorsement to try to go long into this debacle. Do not go on margin, do not go all-in. If we get the sustained bounce, it's just an opportunity to get people out of the stuff that is probably making them very unhappy right now.
Expect the unexpected, it is not crazy to think that we will be getting a "bank holiday", and the market could be closed for days on end with you stuck in a position (which could turn out great or horrid). You will not be quick enough to get out if you are wrong, because the market will be closed - or the Dow will move up (or down) 900 points in about 30 minutes like it did Friday afternoon! 900 HUNDRED points. Anything can happen. Literally.
VIX at 75?! Shatters previous records. Basically saying that the Dow will finish 400 points away from it's previous close - that's nuts.
More to that point, courtesy of Nathan - The intra-day movement (high v low) in the S&P has been over 5% just 41 times in the last 45 years (over 11775 trading days). It happened every day this week. It was over 10% today and yesterday. That has only happened two other times.
But back to the bullish case I mentioned above. 10 of the things that point to rally (wave 4 of 3 from the Mish article you just read - maybe).
http://tinyurl.com/4yqstd
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But I'm not about to get all bullish that easy - no matter what the market does....
1 in 6 mortgages in this country are now underwater - WOW. Up from 4% in 2006, and 6% in 2007. Oh, and here come the option ARM's. Oh, and all the "experts" say we will be making money on the MBS's the government is going to buy with our bailout money. Yes, that's why everyone else on the planet was lined up to buy them - but our government said no, our taxpayers get first dibs, the rest of you can go away.
http://tinyurl.com/3opsmv
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Some of these are pretty funny. Pictures of "sad guys on trading floors".
http://tinyurl.com/4tzrov
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Oh goodie – the clock runs out of digits, but now they are preparing for it to go to a quadrillion! Did Dr. Evil just walk by?
http://tinyurl.com/49bkur
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Where will the money come from? From the USA Today:
“Unemployment insurance trust funds are being depleted in many economically hard-hit states, setting the stage for a federal bailout to keep them solvent, USA Today reported Tuesday. As the number of U.S. jobless hit 9.5 million in August, pushing the unemployment rate to a five-year high of 6.1%, states such as California, New York, Ohio and Michigan are projected to run out of unemployment insurance funds either this year or in 2009. About one-third of the jobless receive unemployment insurance from state governments. The federal government is required to loan states money when their funds run dry. "People will get their benefits. It's just a matter of where the money will come from," a spokeswoman at the California Employment Development Department said.”
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Items of "lessor" importance:
Carlin telling it like it is:
http://tinyurl.com/2y867d
Adler - generally considered one of the smartest guys in the room...
(Posted in its entirety on www.wallstreetexaminer.com)
"The Long March toward the destruction of the creditworthiness of the United States of America took a Great Leap Forward today, or perhaps we should say “one small step for Paulson, one flying leap for mankind.” The Treasury announced and carried out 2 same-day surprise auctions of medium term notes totaling $20 billion. They announced 2 more auctions of similar paper for another $20 billion tomorrow. The market choked on its vomit. 5 year yields rose 22 bp on the day, and at one point were up 50 bp from the low of the day, which came right after the open when the market was digesting the meaningless worldwide central bank coordinated rate cut.
The Fed action in cutting the Fed Funds target to 1.5% was merely rubberstamping the action it had already taken a couple of weeks ago when it first flooded the system with cash and drove Fed Funds rates into the ground. Today they just made it official that they intend to pursue aggressively reflationary policies of monetizing virtually anything. What next after commercial paper? Baseball cards? Monopoly money?
Ironically, today they had to pump in $20 billion via OMO as Fed Funds soared on Tuesday to nearly 3%. I suspect that they will have ongoing difficulty trying to peg actual Fed Funds trading to anywhere near the target rate.
The Treasury market’s problem is not theoretical. It’s not about the threat of investors discounting future inflation. It’s much simpler than that. It’s about simply choking on a barrage of new Treasury supply that’s running between $100 and $200 billion every week! There is no way that stocks, or corporate bonds, or GSE paper, or munis can compete with this supply. Today we saw first signs that the market can’t even absorb just the Treasury supply. As the interest rates rise on Treasuries as a result, we will be facing an unimaginable economic environment, one in which the world rightly questions the ability of the US Government to service its obligations.
The Fed is converting these Treasury funds into loans on, and purchases of, securities and loans, at least some of which are certain not to be repaid. We are now backing our money with assets that may never be able to be liquidated. A time is now virtually certain that there will be no realistic way to pay off the debts the Treasury is now incurring.
As the market begins to realize this, we may face the ultimate collapse, the collapse of US Government finance. Ultimately the world as we know it will be changed in ways that we cannot imagine. Even if the US Government were to reverse course now and say, flat out, no more bailouts, no more Treasury borrowing to finance bailouts, it’s probably already too late.
It’s one thing to allow private capital markets to fail. It’s another thing entirely to foster, foment, and cause the failure of government. A loss of confidence in financial markets is one thing. A breakdown of confidence in government would mean societal changes that we never dreamed of."
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Been awfully quiet around here ... I'm having a hard time believing football has taken over your interest in the market ...
The bottom has been reached. CNBC said so...and they daggered it.
I wish I had the documentation to prove how many bottom's they called this year. I do recall Cramer saying July 15th was THE bottom when it happened. You can look up how that turned out.
Are we at *a* bottom? I hope so. CNBC and all their manipulative friends will ensure that the entire public believes it. And just when they all jump in with what remaning cash they have, you will see the blood return - but worse. I don't expect 2009 to be remotely pretty.
That being said, I expect the beginning of next week to be down, before resuming the rally. Anything's possible.
WASHINGTON (AP) Wednesday February 11, 2009, 3:40 pm EST -- Moving with lightning speed, key lawmakers announced agreement Wednesday on a $789 billion economic stimulus measure designed to create millions of jobs in a nation reeling from recession. President Barack Obama could sign the bill within days.
Sen. Joseph Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, predicted the bill "will be the beginning of the turnaround for the American economy."
OK. Now it's officially daggered.
Ha! I guess we need a dagger count now too? Wonder what he will say when the next stimulus passes? "No really, this time we mean it..."
I miss the Replay. But the news is mainstream now, you still don't need me. Plus I'd have to update this daily with all the stupidity happening out there.
As for the markets, lets just say the rally I mentioned back in the day that we've been riding since November is on it's last legs.
Some chartists would say we have a few more weeks, but I don't think it'll even be that long.
Be safe.
2. Remember When?
Remember that weird day back in September when then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson, Senator Christopher Dodd (D-CT) and Representative John Boehner (R-OH) each made the Sunday morning news program rounds explaining the need for the Troubled Asset Relief Program, whose acronym, "TARP," could only be either a cruel joke or the result of pure, unadulterated idiocy?
"Much of this weird tension today stems directly from Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson's rounds yesterday on the Sunday morning news shows. His behavior was jarringly disturbing and erratic. On "This Week" with George Stephanopolous, Paulson could barely answer a single question without glancing nervously over his shoulder like a man who had just escaped from a medical detention center hurriedly explaining his side of the story to a passing motorist.
And what was his side of the story? Well, that is the awful crux of it. There was no side; there was simply "The Abyss." We have "narrowly avoided it," according to some. We have "stared into it and stepped back," according to others. Some say we have "faced it." Still others, that we "came within hair of plunging into it." But no one anywhere will say with any definitive completeness what, exactly, "The Abyss" is.
Shortly after Paulson disintegrated into a sweaty, jabbering mess under the TV lights on "This Week,' Senator Dodd and Representative Boehner appeared.
"What is it will happen if we don't have this legislation?" Stephanopolous asked. It's a reasonable question. In fact, it's the only reasonable question.
The answer from Dodd and Boehner? Silence. Pressed, Boehner said, "You can't describe on Sunday morning how ugly this picture would look if we don't act."
"Why not?"
No answer."
3. Well, Now We Know...
In this video clip from an appearance on C-Span, Representative Paul Kanjorski of Pennsylvania explains what neither Treasury Secretary Paulson, Senator Dodd or Representative Boehner apparently felt they could say on the more widely-viewed This Week program.
"On Thursday, September 15, 2008 at roughly 11 a.m., the Federal Reserve noticed a tremendous draw-down of money market accounts in the USA to the tune of $550 Billion dollars in a matter of an hour or two. Money was being removed electronically.
The treasury tried to help with $150 billion. But could not stem the tide. It was an electronic run on the banks The Treasury intervened, but, had they not closed down the accounts, they estimated that by 2 p.m. that afternoon. Within 3 hours. $5.5 trillion would have been withdrawn and collapsed within 24 hours the world economy."
As I've noted before, the idiots in charge are forcing everyone to take their ball and go home - that was yet another example.
That being said, pulling Congress aside and telling them the real story to scare them into voting for stupid things will also backfire massively.
Paulson and Bernanke have lied since day 1 - I knew it then, and have been proven right repeatedly.
Good luck to us.
Have you gotten your Unicorn yet?
Mr. Anon, you should reveal yourself someday. I'm still waiting for the Obamassiah to send me my unicorn - everyone will surely have one when he gets finished though. The kids and grandkids will have fun paying for that for decades to come. It's a shame, he'd have been a good leader, but this is much bigger than him.
Well for a guy that built his campaign on "change", this looks like the same old crap.
That mortgage bailout is absurd.
Ritholz was on Fast Money last night.
Welcome aboard Jim, get your old team to win a game.
Yep - there will be no "change". I'm sure there would've been if good old GD2 wasn't building such a head of steam.
There is yet to be a bailout that isn't absurd, nor will any of the MANY future ones break that mold.
There will be a "revolution" - the masses are no longer being represented.
The entire "bull market" of the last 7 years was a ponzi scheme built on credit. That is done. People aren't as dumb as everyone thinks - getting credit flowing again does nothing if nobody wants to borrow and continue spending above their means.
This game is so amazingly over - all that's left is the realization and the subsequent blood and crying.
How do you lose 60 BILLION dollars in 3 months, demand more money from the taxpayer, and then go on CNBC and say:
"Our cash liquidity is fine right now, but now because the capital markets are in such a freefall we're fighting another issue, which is do we have enough equity to support the debt that we have."
Huh. They don't have enough equity to support the debt they have. I kind of thought that was the POINT of an insurance company.
Insurance companies have left a lot of be desire of. Unfortunately it will only get worse for them.
As for AIG, taxpayers have now extended 250B in loans to a company with a market cap of 1.5B, who just lost 60B in the last 90 days.
The system is F'd.
I thought it was cute that the head of AIG said he "couldn't rule out" accepting more help in the future. That's nice that he'd be willing to take more of our money and flush it down the toilet.
So what do you set the odds at for that happening? Probably somewhere around 100%. You think? Maybe? I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
First of all, thanks for stating your current holdings as your name, that already makes you more trustworthy than 95% of the shills they parade on CNBC.
Your estimates of probabilities are quite accurate.
So why would they be so dumb to keep giving them money? Maybe because AIG started as a Chinese company? Currently insuring millions of their citizens pensions? In a country we need to continue buying our debt? A country Hillary made her first visit on the job to.
We're being fleeced - or maybe I'm crazy....
Wow, I didn't know all of that. But really, stop being so silly. They're too just too big to fail. I mean if we were to have let them fail back in September do you know what would have happened?!? Well...kind of exactly what's happening right now anyway.
I'm feeling irrationally exuberant today.
AIG is bigger in Asia than they are in the US. Imagine if the news reported that to us taxpayers after every bailout check we send them.
Luckily you know how to keep the exuberance in check! Although I now wish we would get a big old rally after closing shorts a while ago.
But we are going much lower, so I'm sure they won't be closed for long.
Tuesday March 3, 6:00 pm ET
By Tom Raum, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Trying to pump up the nation's confidence, President Barack Obama said Tuesday that Wall Street has been hammered so hard that "buying stocks is a potentially good deal,"
Unicorn encrusted dagger!!!
Does a rally this morning change your opinion about the near term status of the market?
Nice to see the President initiate coverage on the markets, at a "strong buy" no less! Didn't realize he was qualified?
As for a rally changing my thesis? I closed nearly all shorts by the end of the day yesterday, so I'd love a rally!
But it won't be a long one whenever it happens. The Dow will be much lower sooner or later. So I'm ready to put them back on at a moments notice.
1. Fed Reports Housing "In the Doldrums"
In a worrying sign that the economy may be further deteriorating, or perhaps an optimistic glimmer of hope, we can't really be sure, the Federal Reserve reported Wednesday that housing "remains in the doldrums in most areas."
The official characterization of housing as being "in the doldrums" was delivered in the Federal Reserve' s "Beige Book", the summary of regional business reports from the Fed's 12 regional banks.
Is it better for housing to be "in the doldrums", as opposed to "collapsing at a horrifying pace"? You bet. But remember these are the same cats that brought us "well contained." The Fed has an unnatural affinity for understating the severity of economic conditions.
Wonderful. They plan on fixing this mess with their last weapon of defense - slang.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=220252&title=cnbc-gives-financial-advice
I'm sure the link won't work, but just type it into your browser, it's worth it.
I heard that clip was awesome, I'll definitely check that out - thanks for the link!
Does our bounce start today? Just may be. But how long does it last...
That video was good. The next day it got better.
http://tinyurl.com/dgfr47
And then again the next day even better...
http://tinyurl.com/cwgejl
Just. Awesome.
By the way, if you are not familiar with CNBC - ignore the ripping on Rick Santelli. By far the most legit person on that network.
...has been thrown down. Freaky Friday the 13th, place your bets. Game #1.
I'll start by setting the closing day S&P at 755.
Over or Under.
Oh that's right! Closing for today? Under for me. Super overdone the last 3 days.
Rally, Rally, Rally!!!
By the power of Jim Cramer, let's have some relaxation of mark-to-market...
(which of course solves nothing, it just takes crap and moves it around, shakes it up, and re-categorizes it as different crap)
Cramer was actually on the Daily Show last night, I'll have to watch that clip and add it to the list.
Yes, the problem with this market is nobody trusts anyone - so how about we solve that by letting companies decide what their own holdings are worth.
We should also have figured out long ago that the way to cure a crack addict is to put cocaine in their cereal.
I'm Coo-coo for cocaine puffs! Has a nice ring to it.
Can't wait to see what the brain trust of the world comes up with this weekend.
"ummmm....can't we just dump our level 3 assets on Japan or something"
"Excuse me, Japan is in the room!!!"
And down the stretch they come....15 minutes left
S&P 500 755.29
You've probably seen it already, but that Denninger guy has a bunch of predictions for 2009 that he laid out at the end of last year.
He prefaces his predictions by saying this:
here you go with my predictions for 2009.... and I will prefix this by saying this is a list I hope proves to be entirely incorrect. Perhaps there really is a Unicorn that craps skittles even though I've yet to find it.
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